Comments on: Where did the last post come from…? http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282 I'm an intercessory missionary, and it's the end of the age Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:52:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Andy http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3898 Andy Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:24:25 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3898 Dave - thanks for writing! Your response really got me thinking. To me it seems that it is not a new trend for the media to take the posture of deconstructing moral boundaries in an attempt to dictate immoral norms that are out of touch with mainstream America (while they pretend to just be faithfully portraying what already is reality). What strikes me most is the amount of divergence from mainstream morality that the media is becoming comfortable with - even when their divergence becomes so extreme that it costs them economically. I think it takes a certain amount of inebriation to embrance an economically self-destructive posture. I have been exposed to more TV than normal recently because of my job. It has been remarkable how many companies are introducing TV commercials with overtly homosexual references. I wonder how they think they are drawing more people to their products and services than they are alienating. Dave - thanks for writing! Your response really got me thinking. To me it seems that it is not a new trend for the media to take the posture of deconstructing moral boundaries in an attempt to dictate immoral norms that are out of touch with mainstream America (while they pretend to just be faithfully portraying what already is reality). What strikes me most is the amount of divergence from mainstream morality that the media is becoming comfortable with - even when their divergence becomes so extreme that it costs them economically. I think it takes a certain amount of inebriation to embrance an economically self-destructive posture. I have been exposed to more TV than normal recently because of my job. It has been remarkable how many companies are introducing TV commercials with overtly homosexual references. I wonder how they think they are drawing more people to their products and services than they are alienating.

]]> By: David http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3890 David Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:07:56 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3890 Greg - what I said to Will goes for you too, my friend - your insight is always appreciated around these here parts. You have a tender way of provoking the "religious" while helpfully checking at times the "radical". Greg - what I said to Will goes for you too, my friend - your insight is always appreciated around these here parts. You have a tender way of provoking the “religious” while helpfully checking at times the “radical”.

]]> By: David http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3889 David Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:06:26 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3889 Zack - I don't mess with that part of the site - I'll take it up with management. :) Will - thanks for dropping in! Good to hear from you...! Zack - I don’t mess with that part of the site - I’ll take it up with management. :)

Will - thanks for dropping in! Good to hear from you…!

]]> By: David http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3888 David Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:05:23 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3888 Scott - I totally understand where you are coming from. When I said, "religious conservative", I wasn't necessarily describing myself as much as I was asserting that I fit Newsweek's profile of the backwards thinking bigot. Their attempt to enlighten me with their rendering of the scriptures is knit to their definition of "religious conservative", and thus for the purposes of this conversation that's what I'm working with. Side note: I am fairly religious, but by definition I am a radical, not a conservative. I have no desire for things to stay the same or go back to the way things were, only a deep yearning for almost everything to change. That's not conservative, by definition. So there you have it. "Religious Radical". That's going to be a helpful designation someday. Scott - I totally understand where you are coming from. When I said, “religious conservative”, I wasn’t necessarily describing myself as much as I was asserting that I fit Newsweek’s profile of the backwards thinking bigot. Their attempt to enlighten me with their rendering of the scriptures is knit to their definition of “religious conservative”, and thus for the purposes of this conversation that’s what I’m working with.

Side note: I am fairly religious, but by definition I am a radical, not a conservative. I have no desire for things to stay the same or go back to the way things were, only a deep yearning for almost everything to change. That’s not conservative, by definition. So there you have it. “Religious Radical”. That’s going to be a helpful designation someday.

]]> By: Tiffany http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3887 Tiffany Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:58:28 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3887 Thank you so much for writing this. I was totally unaware of the manipulation that was going on over this issue. I'm angry that many are being deceived. Thank you so much for writing this. I was totally unaware of the manipulation that was going on over this issue. I’m angry that many are being deceived.

]]> By: Zack with a "k" http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3886 Zack with a "k" Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:07:52 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3886 Dude well said, loved it. side note: My name has been spelled wrong on your blog roll for like 17 years now... just sayin' Dude well said, loved it.

side note: My name has been spelled wrong on your blog roll for like 17 years now… just sayin’

]]> By: Ryan http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3884 Ryan Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:07:44 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3884 Dave, I'm SO excited to see that you're writing again. Your blog is one of those that I check just about every morning to see if there's anything juicy to chew on. I came across a FANTASTIC response to that Newsweek article by Rob Gagnon. He's an associate professor of theology at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. Here's the link: http://robgagnon.net/NewsweekMillerHomosexResp.htm He absolutely deconstructs Lisa Miller's entire article. His response is a bit lengthy, but it's definitely worth the read. I also saw a stat on Slice of Laodicea this morning which says that 52% of young people who consider themselves Evangelicals condone homosexual marriage or unions. It's just a blurb, but here's the link: http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/circus-church/52-of-evangelical-young-people-believe-in-gay-marriage/ Please keep us posted about when your book and Revelation notes will be released. I'd love to get my hands on both! Blessings, Ryan Dave,

I’m SO excited to see that you’re writing again. Your blog is one of those that I check just about every morning to see if there’s anything juicy to chew on.

I came across a FANTASTIC response to that Newsweek article by Rob Gagnon. He’s an associate professor of theology at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. Here’s the link:

http://robgagnon.net/NewsweekMillerHomosexResp.htm

He absolutely deconstructs Lisa Miller’s entire article. His response is a bit lengthy, but it’s definitely worth the read.

I also saw a stat on Slice of Laodicea this morning which says that 52% of young people who consider themselves Evangelicals condone homosexual marriage or unions. It’s just a blurb, but here’s the link:

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/circus-church/52-of-evangelical-young-people-believe-in-gay-marriage/

Please keep us posted about when your book and Revelation notes will be released. I’d love to get my hands on both!

Blessings,

Ryan

]]> By: william matthews http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3882 william matthews Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:42:16 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3882 I wholeheartedly agree with you. I wholeheartedly agree with you.

]]> By: Greg http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3880 Greg Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:51:59 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3880 Dave, very very well said. The Newsweek story represents a distorted, intellectually dishonest reading of the Bible and of history. I hope Christians, particularly the younger ones, are discerning enough to see its falsity. And this isn't just about marriage: the Gospel itself is at stake. Wish I had time to say more, but exams are around the corner. Take care! Dave, very very well said. The Newsweek story represents a distorted, intellectually dishonest reading of the Bible and of history. I hope Christians, particularly the younger ones, are discerning enough to see its falsity. And this isn’t just about marriage: the Gospel itself is at stake. Wish I had time to say more, but exams are around the corner. Take care!

]]> By: Scott http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3879 Scott Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:49:04 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3879 "As a religious conservative," ...Trying to figure out how to say this so that I come across in the way that I really feel... I spent years being a religious conservative, and I don't mean that unkindly; but I feel like that's becoming part of my past. I don't think you're one either, David (not meaning to speak for you). The phrase seems to describe something that has become owned, shaped and defined by the world, and we're something other-worldly. Something they cannot begin to understand, let alone define or shape. It just feels like religious conservatives doesn't apply to us anymore. God has had me in Rev 1 for almost two months now. One word from one phrase has been taking on more significance for me everyday as I read it, pray it and speak it: "kingdom", from verse 6. "To Him who loved us and... has made us a kingdom... to His God..." So though I have my feet thoroughly planted on planet earth, my heart is leading my brain to some place new, in which the slightest inkling is starting to dawn. Jesus made us a kingdom to His God. The signs of the time are starting to pop, but He's drawing our hearts to a really different place, His kingdom. The world has no idea it exists, and when they try to pigeonhole people like us it's like a bullet passing two feet over our heads: it gets your attention, but has no effect at all. Maybe that makes sense to someone. I enjoyed saying it. “As a religious conservative,”

…Trying to figure out how to say this so that I come across in the way that I really feel…

I spent years being a religious conservative, and I don’t mean that unkindly; but I feel like that’s becoming part of my past. I don’t think you’re one either, David (not meaning to speak for you). The phrase seems to describe something that has become owned, shaped and defined by the world, and we’re something other-worldly. Something they cannot begin to understand, let alone define or shape. It just feels like religious conservatives doesn’t apply to us anymore.

God has had me in Rev 1 for almost two months now. One word from one phrase has been taking on more significance for me everyday as I read it, pray it and speak it: “kingdom”, from verse 6. “To Him who loved us and… has made us a kingdom… to His God…”

So though I have my feet thoroughly planted on planet earth, my heart is leading my brain to some place new, in which the slightest inkling is starting to dawn. Jesus made us a kingdom to His God. The signs of the time are starting to pop, but He’s drawing our hearts to a really different place, His kingdom. The world has no idea it exists, and when they try to pigeonhole people like us it’s like a bullet passing two feet over our heads: it gets your attention, but has no effect at all.

Maybe that makes sense to someone. I enjoyed saying it.

]]> By: eli http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3877 eli Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:11:41 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3877 The post above is in the wrong place. I am waiting to see if you move it after moderation. The post above is in the wrong place. I am waiting to see if you move it after moderation.

]]> By: eli http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3876 eli Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:10:17 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3876 I think that in the future the Newsweek article will be seen by Christians as a major turning point in the approach of the end times. Without rebuttal or any equivocation a major news magazine marginalizes and ridicules anyone who might believe differently about homosexuality. Next, any pretense of pretending to present another side to abortion will fall away. Juxtapose this article with the attack on the Call San Francisco in the Castro District and you see the seeds of the persecution of Christians that will arise. In the Newsweek article you see the seeds of a synergistic religious system that marginalizes and ultimately will persecute the true church in the end times. I think that in the future the Newsweek article will be seen by Christians as a major turning point in the approach of the end times. Without rebuttal or any equivocation a major news magazine marginalizes and ridicules anyone who might believe differently about homosexuality. Next, any pretense of pretending to present another side to abortion will fall away. Juxtapose this article with the attack on the Call San Francisco in the Castro District and you see the seeds of the persecution of Christians that will arise. In the Newsweek article you see the seeds of a synergistic religious system that marginalizes and ultimately will persecute the true church in the end times.

]]> By: Jo http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3874 Jo Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:25:42 +0000 http://www.heisatthedoor.com/wordcast/?p=282#comment-3874 I just read your article and then I read the Newsweek one. Honestly... I have never seen the Word of God more twisted for a single destructive purpose than this Newsweek article. It's calling good evil and evil good. Definitely a sign of the times. I just read your article and then I read the Newsweek one. Honestly… I have never seen the Word of God more twisted for a single destructive purpose than this Newsweek article. It’s calling good evil and evil good. Definitely a sign of the times.

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